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	<title>Comments on: Zope.org: Permanent Failure?</title>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://blog.sidneidasilva.com/2005/10/11/zopeorg-permanent-failure/#comment-125</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 23:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Im still here Sawdog. You guys need anything, let me know. I&#039;ve been slammed at work, but I should be able to scrounge up some time to back into the swing of things for the UI.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im still here Sawdog. You guys need anything, let me know. I&#8217;ve been slammed at work, but I should be able to scrounge up some time to back into the swing of things for the UI.</p>
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		<title>By: sawdog</title>
		<link>http://blog.sidneidasilva.com/2005/10/11/zopeorg-permanent-failure/#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sawdog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 23:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt; OK &lt;/strong&gt; 
I got access.  I&#039;ll get an instance setup.  I&#039;ll have to work with the ZC SA&#039;s to get a loadbalancer pool setup so we can access it.  Contact Jim@zope.com for your necessary papers so we can roll on this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong> OK </strong><br />
I got access.  I&#8217;ll get an instance setup.  I&#8217;ll have to work with the ZC SA&#8217;s to get a loadbalancer pool setup so we can access it.  Contact <a href="mailto:Jim@zope.com">Jim@zope.com</a> for your necessary papers so we can roll on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Sidnei da Silva</title>
		<link>http://blog.sidneidasilva.com/2005/10/11/zopeorg-permanent-failure/#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sidnei da Silva]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt; Alright! &lt;/strong&gt; 
Keep me posted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong> Alright! </strong><br />
Keep me posted.</p>
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		<title>By: sawdog</title>
		<link>http://blog.sidneidasilva.com/2005/10/11/zopeorg-permanent-failure/#comment-118</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sawdog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt; Agreed &lt;/strong&gt; 
I agree that it shouldn&#039;t be much of a development effort - but it&#039;s going to be a little bit nonetheless (and it&#039;s always more then we guess)  :)

I&#039;ll see if I can get access back to the servers and setup a new checkout of software with a nanzo.zope.org url that points to this new instance.  Not sure if that can happen or not unfortunately.  #zope-web is where we hang out for these kinds of things and where we should congregate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong> Agreed </strong><br />
I agree that it shouldn&#8217;t be much of a development effort &#8211; but it&#8217;s going to be a little bit nonetheless (and it&#8217;s always more then we guess)  :)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll see if I can get access back to the servers and setup a new checkout of software with a nanzo.zope.org url that points to this new instance.  Not sure if that can happen or not unfortunately.  #zope-web is where we hang out for these kinds of things and where we should congregate.</p>
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		<title>By: Sidnei da Silva</title>
		<link>http://blog.sidneidasilva.com/2005/10/11/zopeorg-permanent-failure/#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sidnei da Silva]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt; Famous last words &lt;/strong&gt; 
I know I will hate myself later on, but I feel I&#039;m in debt with zope.org. I could contribute some time to coding. 

I can&#039;t think of much new software that would have to be written for a zope.org remake. 

There&#039;s some very simple tasks that would provide some immediate gain, say, booting up a 2.8.4+ zope with CMF 1.5.5+, mount the old database and copy just the content over. 

That would be a good first step towards something we can work with, and better, zero TTW work required :)

From there, we could fix a couple glitches and stitch a new skin, and then the boring work starts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong> Famous last words </strong><br />
I know I will hate myself later on, but I feel I&#8217;m in debt with zope.org. I could contribute some time to coding. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t think of much new software that would have to be written for a zope.org remake. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s some very simple tasks that would provide some immediate gain, say, booting up a 2.8.4+ zope with CMF 1.5.5+, mount the old database and copy just the content over. </p>
<p>That would be a good first step towards something we can work with, and better, zero TTW work required :)</p>
<p>From there, we could fix a couple glitches and stitch a new skin, and then the boring work starts.</p>
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		<title>By: sawdog</title>
		<link>http://blog.sidneidasilva.com/2005/10/11/zopeorg-permanent-failure/#comment-124</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sawdog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt; General Design  &lt;/strong&gt; 
Don&#039;t focus on the &#039;content&#039; - he was looking at the current zope.org when he was working on a design and using it&#039;s current setup/structure for this.  http://www.modscape.com/zope]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong> General Design  </strong><br />
Don&#8217;t focus on the &#8216;content&#8217; &#8211; he was looking at the current zope.org when he was working on a design and using it&#8217;s current setup/structure for this.  <a href="http://www.modscape.com/zope" rel="nofollow">http://www.modscape.com/zope</a></p>
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		<title>By: sawdog</title>
		<link>http://blog.sidneidasilva.com/2005/10/11/zopeorg-permanent-failure/#comment-123</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sawdog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt; I&#039;ll look &lt;/strong&gt; 
I&#039;ll find in my email the links to his dev site where he was doing the designs.  I&#039;ll post the link when I find it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong> I&#8217;ll look </strong><br />
I&#8217;ll find in my email the links to his dev site where he was doing the designs.  I&#8217;ll post the link when I find it.</p>
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		<title>By: sawdog</title>
		<link>http://blog.sidneidasilva.com/2005/10/11/zopeorg-permanent-failure/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sawdog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt; I was &lt;/strong&gt; 
I was willing to, but I didn&#039;t have the resources at my disposal to make anything happen.  I&#039;d still be willing to if we had some number of people willing to do this.  At last count, there was me, d2m (who is only doing TTW structure, organization, etc) and the designer.  We need a few programmers to go the direction I&#039;d like.  I can code, but can&#039;t commit to being the main guy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong> I was </strong><br />
I was willing to, but I didn&#8217;t have the resources at my disposal to make anything happen.  I&#8217;d still be willing to if we had some number of people willing to do this.  At last count, there was me, d2m (who is only doing TTW structure, organization, etc) and the designer.  We need a few programmers to go the direction I&#8217;d like.  I can code, but can&#8217;t commit to being the main guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Sidnei da Silva</title>
		<link>http://blog.sidneidasilva.com/2005/10/11/zopeorg-permanent-failure/#comment-122</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sidnei da Silva]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt; Yes... &lt;/strong&gt; 
Even more if a new design was on the plans. Anyway, you said that you got a new layout, I would like to see that and maybe propose it for evaluation on the mailing list.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong> Yes&#8230; </strong><br />
Even more if a new design was on the plans. Anyway, you said that you got a new layout, I would like to see that and maybe propose it for evaluation on the mailing list.</p>
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		<title>By: Sidnei da Silva</title>
		<link>http://blog.sidneidasilva.com/2005/10/11/zopeorg-permanent-failure/#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sidnei da Silva]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt; Lead? &lt;/strong&gt; 
I guess it all boils down to a problem of leadership. Everyone is interested in contributing a little, but no one is capable of taking the lead and making a firm assertion about what direction the efforts should lead to.

I can&#039;t think of a person that fits this role, unfortunately.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong> Lead? </strong><br />
I guess it all boils down to a problem of leadership. Everyone is interested in contributing a little, but no one is capable of taking the lead and making a firm assertion about what direction the efforts should lead to.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t think of a person that fits this role, unfortunately.</p>
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